Semi-Duplex repeaters, a more sophisticated approach
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:24 pm
Used by a number of regions, wide area repeaters are a very useful way of giving radio coverage over a large area. In order to work, the aerial for these devices needs to be high up or the area to be covered needs to be fairly flat. They no more go round sharp corners than does any other form of radio coverage. That said, they can be made to work well when either of the above criteria can be met.
One of my colleagues to the south of our region makes heavy and successful use of wide area repeaters and to do this he uses a radio not often mentioned on this website, the Team Simoco TSF2025. This is a dedicated repeater designed for duplex operation and comes in a 1U 19" rack mount case. It's RF engines are a pair of SRM9000s but using bespoke firmware developed by Team Simoco. For use as fixed repeaters on the UKSAR frequencies, they perform well and are reliable in operation.
Taking the programming a little further and looking at mobile repeaters rather than those intended for fixed sites, I used a configuration file sent to me by the Simoco engineers. This is based upon the old police VHF system which had a succession of 'comfort beeps' added to the end of the transmission from the repeater. It will bring tears to the eyes of any police officers in your team!
Using the TSF2025 has an advantage over a lot of other methods as it can handle multiple CTCSS tones. Not simultaineously but providing all radios wanting to use it are on the same channel, R1 to R5, then the TSF will automatically accept any tone and use the correct one in order to pass the transmission out to the receiving radio. This means such a device can be used in any area or region regardless of which tone that team or region uses themselves.
This makes such a device very flexible if it has to be taken out of your own operating area. It's main use would be to provide wide area comms in the event of a major incident for example. Providing all radios use the same mobile repeater channel, it doesn't actually matter which one it is and nothing needs to be done at the TSF2025 end to accomodate this, it's completely automatic.
Conversely, using the same system, two or more teams can access the same repeater with each using different CTCSS tones. This is the so called 'Community Repeater' system and up to eight different tones can be used although there are only five available for UKSAR mobile repeaters so enabling communications for five people or five teams without each team being able to hear another.
Strictly speaking, transmit inhibit should be used with systems like this as otherwise anyone using a different tone to that of another team could transmit over the top of them because they can't hear anyone using a different tone to themselves. Tx Inhibit prevents this happening by refusing to allow the radio to transmit if there's another carrier on the channel.
A huge number of user programmable facilities are available from selcall, timed events, battery backup warnings sent over the air etc etc.
As already mentioned, this is really a 'Major Incident' application but might find use with teams looking for a flexible approach to mobile repeaters on the UKSAR channels.
With thanks to the Team Simoco engineers and our own Mark Lewis for their help in getting this working.
One of my colleagues to the south of our region makes heavy and successful use of wide area repeaters and to do this he uses a radio not often mentioned on this website, the Team Simoco TSF2025. This is a dedicated repeater designed for duplex operation and comes in a 1U 19" rack mount case. It's RF engines are a pair of SRM9000s but using bespoke firmware developed by Team Simoco. For use as fixed repeaters on the UKSAR frequencies, they perform well and are reliable in operation.
Taking the programming a little further and looking at mobile repeaters rather than those intended for fixed sites, I used a configuration file sent to me by the Simoco engineers. This is based upon the old police VHF system which had a succession of 'comfort beeps' added to the end of the transmission from the repeater. It will bring tears to the eyes of any police officers in your team!
Using the TSF2025 has an advantage over a lot of other methods as it can handle multiple CTCSS tones. Not simultaineously but providing all radios wanting to use it are on the same channel, R1 to R5, then the TSF will automatically accept any tone and use the correct one in order to pass the transmission out to the receiving radio. This means such a device can be used in any area or region regardless of which tone that team or region uses themselves.
This makes such a device very flexible if it has to be taken out of your own operating area. It's main use would be to provide wide area comms in the event of a major incident for example. Providing all radios use the same mobile repeater channel, it doesn't actually matter which one it is and nothing needs to be done at the TSF2025 end to accomodate this, it's completely automatic.
Conversely, using the same system, two or more teams can access the same repeater with each using different CTCSS tones. This is the so called 'Community Repeater' system and up to eight different tones can be used although there are only five available for UKSAR mobile repeaters so enabling communications for five people or five teams without each team being able to hear another.
Strictly speaking, transmit inhibit should be used with systems like this as otherwise anyone using a different tone to that of another team could transmit over the top of them because they can't hear anyone using a different tone to themselves. Tx Inhibit prevents this happening by refusing to allow the radio to transmit if there's another carrier on the channel.
A huge number of user programmable facilities are available from selcall, timed events, battery backup warnings sent over the air etc etc.
As already mentioned, this is really a 'Major Incident' application but might find use with teams looking for a flexible approach to mobile repeaters on the UKSAR channels.
With thanks to the Team Simoco engineers and our own Mark Lewis for their help in getting this working.